Users reviving another old game - Vanguard Saga of Heroes

[looniper]

About a year and a half ago, Sony announced the end of Vanguard, and the players weren't happy.
They had struggled for months to get support on the game, to fix problems introduced by a patch that seemed designed to destroy it (and as it turned out later, it was, but that is for another discussion), and to no avail.

When their offers to pay subscriptions upward of $50/month and even writing a check to cover the game's costs in total for 6 months were ignored and the game closed, some of them weren't willing to give up.

So several of them, some with no development background at all, who learned specifically for the project, began to rebuild it.

While there are core systems yet to be added, and content missing, they have come a very long way,

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I find their accomplishment reassuring, as some of them (as I noted) learned these skills purely for the project, while we have the Original Lead Designer/Programmer working on TRR.

[Smokeh]

though i never got into vanguard that in itself is awesome

[Xen]

I worked on the Vanguard emu. You can see me mentioned on this page. I haven't helped in over a year and a half though, but it was a ton of fun in the early stages figuring out how to get things working. I still get some messages from the team asking for a little help here and there and I try to help when I can.

We truly created that project for the community to give them a place to go after Sony shut down the game. It's great to see the progress they made.

[looniper]

Packets, ugh.
I have considered getting involved, and still do from time to time.
Unfortunately, age has taken me down a path that.. while I like to think back on how great it was to work in groups, I have become rather set in "My" ways.
I'd be inclined to want to just take it apart and try to do it all on my own, which would never work on a project of that scale.

Maybe.. in time.. the memories will override the accumulated frustration of having had to deal with people who should have been in other occupations so often.

[Xen]

You could write an emu on your own. It does take quite a bit of time though.

[looniper]

That's where "My way" conflicts.
I'd want the exact specifications on everything, then I'd strip the client for the models, and clone the data in Unreal, using 0MQ for the networking and just rebuild the whole thing.
So replacing rather than emulating.

Which would probably get me into real legal trouble.

[Xen]

Yeah, the client side assets are where I think the legal grey area is, even if you build your own client. I thinking building your own server is completely legal.

I just starting looking at 0MQ. I really should have looked at that earlier.

[Fawna]

I thought Vanguard was an amazing game and wish it had more support. Both hubby and I played it and probably would again if it came back to life

[Osiris_Discordia]

So excited to hear about the emulator! This was one of the best MMORPGs ever created!